Judder/vibration Under Acceleration

[punka007]

Hi all - first post on this forum - lots of good advice here. Wondering if you can help I have the following problem with my 03 1.9 TDI Galaxy:

 

When accelerating hard in 5th or 6th gear at speed (40-70 mph) I get a really bad vibration which is felt through the car.It also seems to be intermitant. When I coast or dip the clutch, the problems goes.

 

I've searched the forum and the following look as things I need to rule out:

 

CV joints, engine gearbox mounts, drive shafts.

 

I'm worried it could be flywheel and/or clutch. How can I rule these out?

 

Any other help would be appreciated.

[robpol]

I know you say this problem goes when dipping the clutch but.....

 

Check to see if the plastic engine cover under the Gal isn't flapping about..

[jez62]

All I want to say is that I have EXACTLY the same problem at the same speed and as soon as I back off the accelerator or dip the clutch it stops. I joined this site to find the answer, if you get anywhere please let me know.

 

I took mine to a garage and they said it needed a new clutch and dual mass with servo?? at a cost of

[Chris Dakin]

Hi all - first post on this forum - lots of good advice here. Wondering if you can help I have the following problem with my 03 1.9 TDI Galaxy:

 

When accelerating hard in 5th or 6th gear at speed (40-70 mph) I get a really bad vibration which is felt through the car.It also seems to be intermitant. When I coast or dip the clutch, the problems goes.

 

I've searched the forum and the following look as things I need to rule out:

 

CV joints, engine gearbox mounts, drive shafts.

 

I'm worried it could be flywheel and/or clutch. How can I rule these out?

 

Any other help would be appreciated.

 

I have the same problem! Like you I am assuming it must be an engine mount problem or a drive shaft problem but..... I've noticed it is worse if the front tyres are under inflated. I am going to get the front wheels/tyres check for alignment and true running before I go further. I'm also getting judder under heavy breaking. And finally, the whole thing is worse at the end of a long trip on the motorway. (Hot tyres???) I'll keep you posted.

[bfc1001]

ive just bought a galaxy 3 weeks ago with full history and it had a reciept for a osf driveshaft stump . as there all made in the same factory it could be this as people have suggested.

[studsmassive]

some vehicles have a balance weight on drive shaft due to how long they are also distorted brake discs and if the surface between wheel and hub wasnt free from dirt when wheel was last replaced the wheel would not go on true check the wheels are tight just a thought might be totaly wrong but ha ho

[Jez6363]

I have the same problem! Like you I am assuming it must be an engine mount problem or a drive shaft problem but..... I've noticed it is worse if the front tyres are under inflated. I am going to get the front wheels/tyres check for alignment and true running before I go further. I'm also getting judder under heavy breaking. And finally, the whole thing is worse at the end of a long trip on the motorway. (Hot tyres???) I'll keep you posted.

That exactly describes my Galaxy too (2000 model 2.8 engine).

 

I have had the driveshafts repaced - that may have made it better or worse. It may not have the same sort of shimmy feeling it had at light acceleration, but if I accelerate hard, I can feel the vibration. It may just overall be just getting worse, and the driveshafts didn't make any difference or....

 

I've not been on a long trip since the last one as it was quite scary - driving along the motorway was like being on a cattlegrid - not for the first few miles, but it starts after 20 to 100 miles. I turn off onto A road, and it stops and won't come back. Very hit and miss problem.

 

I also found this - not sure, but maybe...

 

"This is not an uncommon fault on the ford galaxy,or any ford with front wheel drive, the cause is 100% the track control arms (lower suspension arms) and if your not happy with my answer take your car to a workshop with a rolling road test bed,there they put the vehicle "

 

Also wondering if I have a dodgy tyre or wheel.

[Jez6363]

Now also had the lower suspension arms changed as well as the driveshafts - and its still not right.

 

Now, when I accelerate hard, at almost any speed, it intermittently vibrates. It seems worse if on a right turn but that could just be road camber or something.

 

It still also seems to be worse after some gentle driving - if I have just braked hard then when I accelerate it seems smooth - but if I have been coasting, then it judders.

 

Not sure if the original poster or Chris Dakin ever found solutions to their version of this problem?

[drew1965]

Now also had the lower suspension arms changed as well as the driveshafts - and its still not right.

 

Now, when I accelerate hard, at almost any speed, it intermittently vibrates. It seems worse if on a right turn but that could just be road camber or something.

 

It still also seems to be worse after some gentle driving - if I have just braked hard then when I accelerate it seems smooth - but if I have been coasting, then it judders.

 

Not sure if the original poster or Chris Dakin ever found solutions to their version of this problem?

 

 

hi well i have the same sort of problem on my 03 19 tdi

it seems to be vibrating but seems to be coming from the front wheels im gonna get it checked out friday hopefully its just a cv joint tyre or engine mount but it is shaky on the steering and feels worse when i turn left its not the balancing as i have had that done last week

Edited January 28, 2010 by drew1965

[jhs1515]

Now also had the lower suspension arms changed as well as the driveshafts - and its still not right.

 

Now, when I accelerate hard, at almost any speed, it intermittently vibrates. It seems worse if on a right turn but that could just be road camber or something.

 

It still also seems to be worse after some gentle driving - if I have just braked hard then when I accelerate it seems smooth - but if I have been coasting, then it judders.

 

Not sure if the original poster or Chris Dakin ever found solutions to their version of this problem?

 

 

hi well i have the same sort of problem on my 03 19 tdi

it seems to be vibrating but seems to be coming from the front wheels im gonna get it checked out friday hopefully its just a cv joint tyre or engine mount but it is shaky on the steering and feels worse when i turn left its not the balancing as i have had that done last week

[jhs1515]

Hi all - first post on this forum - lots of good advice here. Wondering if you can help I have the following problem with my 03 1.9 TDI Galaxy:

 

When accelerating hard in 5th or 6th gear at speed (40-70 mph) I get a really bad vibration which is felt through the car.It also seems to be intermitant. When I coast or dip the clutch, the problems goes.

 

I've searched the forum and the following look as things I need to rule out:

 

CV joints, engine gearbox mounts, drive shafts.

 

I'm worried it could be flywheel and/or clutch. How can I rule these out?

 

Any other help would be appreciated.

Hi I have got a 53 plate galaxy.

I had a similar problem as this. It normally happened above 40mph and hard acceleration. Different road surfaces gave different results. At one point I thought the engine was going to jump out of the engine bay. I had my wheels checked and a tyre replaced to no avail.

Changed the outer CV in the local garage and they road tested it saying it was fine.

Next day took it down the motorway. Same problem.

In the end a friend of mine jacked up the car and removed the passenger side wheel. Then he started the engine and put it in gear and revved the engine. The wheel hub started vibrating. The fault was the inner CV had gone, on the passenger side. My friend also said that that this would have been hard to detect when test driven as he checked the physical play in the joint and he said the movement was acceptible.

This fault took over a month to diagnose and few hundred pounds wasted. I wish I had contacted my friend first.

Might not be the problem you have but it is well worth checking.

 

John

[sappers]

Hi, I had this very same problem with my 02 plate V6 24v in that it would shake the car at about 20mph and 40mph and after checking tyres and balancing and replacing track rod ends and lower ball joints, it turned out to be the off side drive shaft inner cv joint. The joint was so worn that it had about 5mm play but would not show wear in certain positions of rotation. Bought one off ebay and alls well now. Hope this helps.

[Jayton]

If you don't get the flywheel changed, drop a gear and drive around it and or don't floor it at 2000rpm in 5th or 6th.

[drew1965]

well after a few days of buying two new front tyres and getting the car looked at by a local garage who said i needed both front driveshafts replaced

i decided to drop it off to my friend who is a home mechanic having said i was told it was driveshafts he said he would take both out and look at them and fix them if there is a problem

 

anyway he stripped em and saw no problem with the cv joints at all then he tested the ball joints and saw no problem also the steering bushes no problem so he decided to look at the front nearside suspension and noticed that it was loose and out of place and a lil bent so he fixed it properly and hey presto ....

 

gops to show what some garages know eh

 

may have been the reason why the nearside tyre was more worn than the offside now the juddering has stopped

 

anyone who has shaking/juddering and dont know what it is check your front suspension as it could be this

 

all in all my friend save me a lot of time and money

[gregers]

happy days :D

[jimbob]

All I want to say is that I have EXACTLY the same problem at the same speed and as soon as I back off the accelerator or dip the clutch it stops. I joined this site to find the answer, if you get anywhere please let me know.

 

I took mine to a garage and they said it needed a new clutch and dual mass with servo?? at a cost of

[jimbob]

hi there mate i had the same problem and iv drove a car before like this and i put it down to the drive shafts but i wanted a seconed opinoion,so i went to my local garage and told him simptoms he said it could be your fly wheel but when he tuck it for a test drive came back put it on ramp and put it in gear and said to me yes its your drive shafts wobleing up and down when under presher, iv change them now and all seems well, please not my car is a fiat 1.9 deisel but the runing gear all works the same.